Curse

Str0b0 · Apr 10, 2006, 07:08 PM // 19:08

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Originally Posted by Fantus

Anyone who bothers with like ONE stolen icon obviously has too much time at their hands. Copyright is a good thing, but if it's applied too strictly you can't create anything anymore since you ALWAYS build on other people's work in a way.

Your argument is inherently flawed and invalid according to the legal definition of copyright infringement. Building on someone elses design without replicating their work or using their work but instead adding your own unique features to the original work is legal. Stealing someone's work to use for your own work and not giving them credit or getting their permission to use their work is copyright infringement and is illegal. Once again to everyone that says this is no big deal you obviously don't have any idea about the amount of hard work that goes into something that is a relatively minor part of the game. That icon probably went through at least two revisions and was probably selected from several concepts. It's not just one little image it's the hard work of the people who worked hard on that art that has been stolen.

dreamhunk · Apr 10, 2006, 07:36 PM // 19:36

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Originally Posted by Str0b0

Your argument is inherently flawed and invalid according to the legal definition of copyright infringement. Building on someone elses design without replicating their work or using their work but instead adding your own unique features to the original work is legal. Stealing someone's work to use for your own work and not giving them credit or getting their permission to use their work is copyright infringement and is illegal. Once again to everyone that says this is no big deal you obviously don't have any idea about the amount of hard work that goes into something that is a relatively minor part of the game. That icon probably went through at least two revisions and was probably selected from several concepts. It's not just one little image it's the hard work of the people who worked hard on that art that has been stolen.

good to know that someone knows their laws, I agree.

Mordakai · Apr 10, 2006, 07:40 PM // 19:40

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

Rodgort is Trogdor spelt backwards from the Homestar Runner website. Why aren't they suing?

Nice one, "Hoht Car."

Str0b0 · Apr 10, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by dreamhunk

good to know that someone knows their laws, I agree.

I've been involved in copyright lititgation over artwork before. I used to sell flash to local tattoo shops until this moron started stealing my work and calling it his own and selling it to shops the next town over. I just happened to walk into one of them with a buddy of mine and there was my work on the wall. I got the information on him from the owner, explained that the work was mine. I didn't get any real money from him because he was pretty much broke but I did gett he satisfaction of seeing a cease and desist order placed on him.

dargon · Apr 10, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29

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Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Cant sue.

The Image is detentively different than the Guild Wars one.

The White shading in the middle is larger on theirs, and the greenish shading on the outside has rather different shading ascepts than the guild wars one.

Just enough the same to notice its the same, but just different enough where Anet couldn't persue anything legal.

Actually, it's exactly the same image, just the colors have been shifted slightly. IANAL, but I think they could sue if they wanted, just like mcdonalds could sue you if you decided to use their logo, but it was red and blue instead of red and yellow.

Here's the images in question

Outwar has just taken ANets picture, tweaked a couple colors and resized it a bit.

Derek Ravenclaw · Apr 10, 2006, 11:34 PM // 23:34

It's 99% identical. It came from the first GIS hit when you search for blessing.

Derek Ravenclaw · Apr 10, 2006, 11:35 PM // 23:35

Dargon. Do a comparison from Outwars and THIS one resized: http://www.knights-templar.com/image...l-blessing.jpg

Edit: There's no even shifting of colors.

Hadoken13 · Apr 11, 2006, 01:17 AM // 01:17

heh so they cut off the edges and made the center bigger.....how 'clever'
(-_-)

Dark Moth · Apr 11, 2006, 10:50 AM // 10:50

Unfortunatly ANet supply these images for free and without any constraints on which website they are placed on i.e the only cryteria is that it is a fan site. The people of this site if taken to court can easily just say that it is a GW fansite and that they where in the process of adding some GW infomatin and forums etc.

http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/kit/

Also the above site in non-profit so ANet would have no grounds to sue as the above people are not making a profit on there image.

ANet Copyright Page

Savio · Apr 11, 2006, 12:22 PM // 12:22

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Originally Posted by Dark Moth

Unfortunatly ANet supply these images for free and without any constraints on which website they are placed on i.e the only cryteria is that it is a fan site. The people of this site if taken to court can easily just say that it is a GW fansite and that they where in the process of adding some GW infomatin and forums etc.

http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/kit/

Also the above site in non-profit so ANet would have no grounds to sue as the above people are not making a profit on there image.

ANet Copyright Page

Yes, they're making absolutely no money from selling advertisements. They're not some form of a company. /sarcasm

Just because they don't charge anything directly to their users doesn't make them non-profit. They're blatantly not adding information or having anything to do with Guild Wars at all. Arenanet did not release them "without any constraints;" their specific Terms of Use is here.

Str0b0 · Apr 11, 2006, 04:15 PM // 16:15

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Originally Posted by Dark Moth

Unfortunatly ANet supply these images for free and without any constraints on which website they are placed on i.e the only cryteria is that it is a fan site. The people of this site if taken to court can easily just say that it is a GW fansite and that they where in the process of adding some GW infomatin and forums etc.

http://www.guildwars.com/community/fansites/kit/

Also the above site in non-profit so ANet would have no grounds to sue as the above people are not making a profit on there image.

ANet Copyright Page

I'd also like to point out that it is not necessary for the offender to make a profit from the theft of copyrighted material. Any infringement of copyright can be fought with both criminal and civil suits. The principle is the same as me walking into your house and jacking your TV so I can take it home and watch it. Now does that make what I did right just because I didn't sell it for profit? Of course not. Am I immune to civil and criminal prosecution because I didn't pawn your TV for money? No I'm not. The same thing applies here.